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By: Paul http://blog.toonpool.com/cartoon-reviews/cartoons-and-extremism/comment-page-1/#comment-3595 Paul Mon, 22 Mar 2010 08:29:56 +0000 http://blog.toonpool.com/?p=2264#comment-3595 I am having a problem with allegations of how "the term anti-Semite is used to silence critics of the Israeli government’s tactics". There is a marked difference between cartoons attacking Israel and cartoons attacking and demonizing the Jewish people as such. One of the things Dr. Kotek's book manages to do is to point out this difference and sensitize people for this difference. You write that "It is also up to all people to teach their children to accept people’s differences and not to hate." This is true, but it extends to media as well. When you have the power to influence public opinion you must consider twice what you're doing. There's always a bit of balancing between freedom of expression and these responsibilities. A while ago, I've been talking to toonpool.com's CEO Max Pohlenz about this issue (http://blog.toonpool.com/interview/censorship-on-toonpool-com/). As for "Judaic symbolism" in cartoons about Israel: I know that things get a bit messed up because Israel uses religious symbols as state symbols, but it's up to the artiststo make clear that they are not referring to Jews but to the State of Israel. There is, for example, a difference between the Star of David as such and the Israeli flag. I've been talking to Palestinian artist Ramzy A. Taweel about this issue (http://blog.toonpool.com/interview/western-culture-and-the-wall/). Other "Judaic symbols" used in cartoons are nothing but regurgitated anti-Semitic imagery from the last two centuries. There is a history to these images that artists and editors cannot ignore. I don't think that there is much point in discussing the rights and wrongs of the Middle Eastern conflict here. We should stick with the rights and wrongs of cartooning. I am having a problem with allegations of how “the term anti-Semite is used to silence critics of the Israeli government’s tactics”. There is a marked difference between cartoons attacking Israel and cartoons attacking and demonizing the Jewish people as such. One of the things Dr. Kotek’s book manages to do is to point out this difference and sensitize people for this difference.

You write that “It is also up to all people to teach their children to accept people’s differences and not to hate.” This is true, but it extends to media as well. When you have the power to influence public opinion you must consider twice what you’re doing. There’s always a bit of balancing between freedom of expression and these responsibilities. A while ago, I’ve been talking to toonpool.com’s CEO Max Pohlenz about this issue (http://blog.toonpool.com/interview/censorship-on-toonpool-com/).

As for “Judaic symbolism” in cartoons about Israel: I know that things get a bit messed up because Israel uses religious symbols as state symbols, but it’s up to the artiststo make clear that they are not referring to Jews but to the State of Israel. There is, for example, a difference between the Star of David as such and the Israeli flag. I’ve been talking to Palestinian artist Ramzy A. Taweel about this issue (http://blog.toonpool.com/interview/western-culture-and-the-wall/). Other “Judaic symbols” used in cartoons are nothing but regurgitated anti-Semitic imagery from the last two centuries. There is a history to these images that artists and editors cannot ignore.

I don’t think that there is much point in discussing the rights and wrongs of the Middle Eastern conflict here. We should stick with the rights and wrongs of cartooning.

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By: David Baldinger http://blog.toonpool.com/cartoon-reviews/cartoons-and-extremism/comment-page-1/#comment-3576 David Baldinger Sun, 21 Mar 2010 15:54:57 +0000 http://blog.toonpool.com/?p=2264#comment-3576 Thanks for the review of this book. Although I have not personally seen this book, I must respond to the author's accusations of antisemitism against my good friend, Carlos Latuff. Of course Carlos uses Judaic symbolism (especially that used by the Israeli state) to represent Israel. Carlos' cartoons are very powerful and pointed. His support of the Palestinian cause is unshakable. One thing I know for sure is that Carlos is not antisemitic. He is definitely anti Zionist and anti the collective punishment of the Palestinian people. It seems that the more brutal the Israeli government becomes in dealing with isolated acts of terrorism, the more the term anti-Semite is used to silence critics of the Israeli government's tactics. There are, of course, many truly ugly and antisemitic cartoons being published. Do I believe they should be banned? No! With freedom comes viewpoints and opinions we may not like or find abhorrent. It is up to our individual sensibilities to self censor or ignore the things we don't like. It is also up to all people to teach their children to accept people's differences and not to hate. If Israel doesn't like the increase of negative press, then it should stop pushing Palestinians out and, in good faith, work on a fair two state solution. Thanks for the review of this book. Although I have not personally seen this book, I must respond to the author’s accusations of antisemitism against my good friend, Carlos Latuff. Of course Carlos uses Judaic symbolism (especially that used by the Israeli state) to represent Israel. Carlos’ cartoons are very powerful and pointed. His support of the Palestinian cause is unshakable. One thing I know for sure is that Carlos is not antisemitic. He is definitely anti Zionist and anti the collective punishment of the Palestinian people. It seems that the more brutal the Israeli government becomes in dealing with isolated acts of terrorism, the more the term anti-Semite is used to silence critics of the Israeli government’s tactics.

There are, of course, many truly ugly and antisemitic cartoons being published. Do I believe they should be banned? No! With freedom comes viewpoints and opinions we may not like or find abhorrent. It is up to our individual sensibilities to self censor or ignore the things we don’t like. It is also up to all people to teach their children to accept people’s differences and not to hate. If Israel doesn’t like the increase of negative press, then it should stop pushing Palestinians out and, in good faith, work on a fair two state solution.

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